Christ Jesus Took All Your Disgrace!

Christ Jesus Took All Your Disgrace

So Justice Won – No Partial Face

All Your Days His Mercies Chase

You Down Each Day To Give You Grace

Because He Died – Was Shown No Grace

Marred, Bruised, And Beaten – Spit On Face

God’s Wrath And Curse Did Crush, Debase

So Marred Beyond A Human Face

But Then He Rose To Death Displace

Now, In Him, New Life Embrace

For All Your Sins He Did Erase

So You Will Run A Righteous Race

No Partial Sins Or Wicked Trace

All Because Christ Took Your Place!

God And The Gospel

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Annihilationism Is False Teaching (Josh Barzon)

Josh Barzon makes these excellent points against annihilationism:

Everyone online is suddenly talking about annihilationism. But does Scripture teach that the wicked simply cease to exist? Scripture says no, and for 2,000 years the church has said no. 

Here’s a thread unpacking the key reasons why:

What is Annihilationism?

Annihilationism teaches that the wicked will not experience eternal conscious punishment but will ultimately be destroyed or cease to exist. Some place this at death, others after temporary judgment, but the claim is the same: the unsaved do not continue forever.

It is held by groups like Seventh-day Adventists, Christadelphians, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and some mainline Protestants. A few evangelicals, such as John Stott (later in life) and Edward Fudge, have shown sympathy for it.

This view contrasts with the historic Christian consensus, which has consistently affirmed eternal conscious punishment across all major branches of the church.

Below are the key issues with Annihilationism from biblical, hermeneutical, and contextual angles:

Problem #1 – The Bible Speaks Clearly of Eternal Punishment, Not Extinction

Scripture uses explicit language that directly contradicts Annihilationism:

✴️ Matthew 25:46 – “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

👉🏼 You can’t have eternal life vs. temporary punishment. The contrast collapses if the wicked cease to exist.

✴️ Revelation 14:11 – “The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night.”

👉🏼 This describes ongoing experience, not extinction.

✴️ Revelation 20:10 – The devil, beast, and false prophet are tormented forever and ever.

👉🏼 Their conscious, continual torment is explicitly affirmed.

✴️ Daniel 12:2 – “Some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”

👉🏼 Both groups have ongoing, everlasting destinies.

✴️ Mark 9:48 – “Where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.”

👉🏼 Unending imagery that assumes continued existence.

✴️ Jude 7 – Sodom and Gomorrah serve as an example of “eternal fire.”

👉🏼 The judgment’s effect is eternal, pointing to ongoing consequences, not disappearance.

Together these passages present a consistent biblical pattern: eternal, conscious punishment. Not annihilation.

Problem #2 – The Hermeneutical Problem with Annihilationism

Annihilationists often:

✴️ emphasize “destroy,” “perish,” “consume”

✴️ downplay clear texts about “torment,” “no rest,” “forever”

They frequently appeal to 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (“eternal destruction”) as if it means the wicked cease to exist. But the Greek word olethros refers to ruin, not nonexistence.

Scripture also uses “destruction” metaphorically for:

✴️ the lost sheep of Israel (not annihilated)

✴️ ruined wineskins (still present)

✴️ lost money (still exists)

✴️ destroyed cities (still standing in ruins)

A ruined thing still exists; its condition is what is destroyed. The “destruction” is eternal in its outcome, not in the moment of its act. Reading “destroy” as “cease to exist” breaks the Bible’s own usage and creates a hermeneutical inconsistency.

Problem #3 – The Case Study of the Rich Man and Lazarus

Jesus’ account of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19–31) is one of the clearest narrative arguments against annihilationism. The rich man is fully conscious after death, aware of his surroundings, able to feel torment, remember his life, reason, and speak. Nothing in the passage suggests fading away, soul-sleep, or eventual extinction.

✴️ He “lifted up his eyes” in torment

✴️ He begged for relief

✴️ He remembered his brothers

✴️ He carried ongoing guilt and fear

Every detail assumes continued personal existence.

Even if viewed as a parable, Jesus never builds parables on false theological realities. The story’s force depends on the reality it depicts: conscious, self-aware existence under judgment. As a case study, it stands as a direct contradiction to the idea that the wicked will one day cease to exist.

Problem #4 - The Philosophical and Ontological Problems with Annihilationism

Annihilationists often assumes that immortality is conditional and that humans are not naturally immortal, so God must sustain the wicked eternally if they are to continue existing.

But this contradicts core biblical anthropology:

✴️ Humans are made in God’s image and created for ongoing existence (Ecclesiastes 3:11).

✴️ Souls exist after death in conscious awareness (Luke 16:19–31; Matt. 10:28; Rev. 6:9–10).

For annihilationism, hell requires a change in the nature of humans: the imago Dei is ultimately erased. That raises MASSIVE theological problems.

Problem #5 - The Gravity of Sin and God’s Holiness

Annihilationism often assumes punishment must be proportionate in a way that finite beings cannot incur infinite punishment.

But biblically:

✴️The severity of the crime is measured by the dignity of the One offended. That’s why any sin is infinite in seriousness. It is against an infinitely holy God.

✴️ Eternal punishment reflects the ongoing rebellion of the wicked, not a one-time sin. Jonathan Edwards, CS Lewis and many other theologians argue that the damned continue in hatred of God forever.

A finite creature can commit an offense of infinite weight if the offended party is infinite.

Problem #6 - The Resurrection Problem

Scripture teaches that both believers and unbelievers are raised bodily:

✴️ John 5:28–29 – resurrection of life and resurrection of judgment

✴️ Acts 24:15 – resurrection of both the just and unjust

What is the point of a bodily resurrection for the wicked if they are immediately snuffed out?

The entire point of resurrection is embodied existence. A physical resurrection followed by instantaneous extinction does not align with biblical resurrection theology.

Problem #7 - The Cross Itself Testifies Against Annihilationism

If the punishment for sin is annihilation, then:

✴️ Jesus should have been annihilated.

✴️ The cross becomes a non-parallel substitution.

✴️ The atonement collapses.

But Christ suffered the wrath of God…. not annihilation.

Substitutionary atonement assumes the punishment due to sinners is conscious suffering, not nonexistence.

Annihilationism breaks penal substitution.

Problem #8 - Church History… A Consensus Against Annihilationism

From the early church onward, the doctrine of eternal conscious punishment is nearly unanimous:

✴️ Justin Martyr

✴️ Irenaeus

✴️ Tertullian

✴️ Augustine

✴️ Aquinas

✴️ Reformers (Luther, Calvin)

✴️ Puritans

✴️Confessions (Apostles’, Nicene, Westminster, 1689 LBC) 

The only outliers were unorthodox fringe sects, and even groups like the Seventh-day Adventists only adopted annihilationism in modern times.

The burden of proof rests overwhelmingly on the innovators of Annihilationism …. not the continuous witness of the church.

Problem #9 - The Slippery Slope Into Wider Doctrinal Error

Annihilationism rarely stays isolated. Once eternal judgment is softened, other doctrines begin to shift. Below are the 5 main dangerous doctrinal drifts that Annihilationism leads to…

✴️ It reshapes God’s character.

If endless punishment feels “too severe,” God’s holiness and justice are adjusted to match human intuition, which weakens the seriousness of sin and divine wrath.

✴️ It alters the doctrine of man.

To defend annihilationism, many deny the soul’s ongoing consciousness, opening the door to soul sleep or conditional immortality. Positions that are outside historic orthodoxy.

✴️ It strains the atonement.

If the penalty for sin is nonexistence, Christ did not bear the same judgment, pushing people toward alternative (and weaker) views of the cross.

✴️ It creates a selective hermeneutic. Clear “forever and ever” texts must be minimized, which often spreads into other areas and erodes confidence in Scripture’s plain reading.

✴️ And it commonly leads toward universalism. Denying eternal punishment is frequently the first step toward denying punishment altogether.

The danger is not only the doctrine itself, but the theological direction it inevitably sets.

Conclusion 

 

God is perfectly just & perfectly merciful. Hell reveals the weight of sin, and the cross reveals the depth of His love. 

No one has to face eternal judgment because Christ saves fully. 

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More Against Annihilationism

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Christ Jesus Is The LORD Who’d Save!

Christ Jesus Is The LORD Who’d Save

So Call Upon His Name Who Gave

His Life Upon That Cross To Pave

A Way He All Our Sins Forgave

Christ Died And Rose Up From The Grave

All Must Believe – Hear What He Gave

We Must Be Sent And Preach To Save

For We Belong To Christ – His Slave

We Bear Good News With Beauty Brave

Oh May Our Feet Run On His Wave

Of Greatest Love Who All Forgave

We Tell The World He Came To Save!

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Christ Jesus Spoke Like None Before!

Christ Jesus Spoke Like None Before

Or Ever Since So Praise! Adore!

His Words Give Life And Joy Galore

He Is The Life – Hope’s Guarantor

He Is God’s Word In Flesh And More

He’s God And Man You Can’t Ignore

His Words Are Pure Down To The Core

Wise Like A Bubbling Brook They Soar

Yet He Would Die – God’s Wrath He Bore

The Temple’s Open – Curtain Tore

He Rose Again To Life Restore

Trust Him Alone – Salvation’s Door

Then You Will Speak Not As Before

He’ll Change Your Heart And Words And More

All Sinful Words You Will Abhor

And On Them Make An All Out War

For Christ Is All The Word Adore

We Live To Please Him More And More!

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Christ Jesus Came His Church To Save!

Christ Jesus Came His Church To Save

Community That’s One And Brave

Deals With Conflict, Loves, Forgave

For On God’s Hands Our Names Engrave

Like Him We Love And Act – He’d Pave

A Way To Give Just Like He Gave

For Jesus Died – Our Sins Forgave

Then Rose Alive Up From That Grave

Now We’re His Friends – Not Just His Slave

He’s Elder Brother Strong And Brave

Our Friend Like None We Always Crave

Our God Who Loves And Came To Save!

God And The Gospel

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Wilhelmus à Brakel On God's Anger Toward His Son On That Cross

Wilhelmus à Brakel on the anger of God toward His Son on that cross:

The curse. Christ felt in full force the curse, the execution of being accursed, Galatians 3:10-13, the wrath of God, the Lord's anger, righteously expressed upon a sinner (214)

Imagine feeling the sin in its horror, being utterly forsaken of God's favor, feeling God's wrath and anger as a Judge in righteousness in the highest degree, and then being attacked and assaulted in the most cunning and most horrific way by the power of hell at that time. What a situation it was! What a distressing state it was! Thus, Christ suffered according to the soul. (214)

Quotations take from: Christology: The Doctrine of Christ

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James Durham On God's Anger Toward His Son On That Cross

James Durham on the anger of God toward His Son on that cross:

Concerning the severity of Divine Justice in punishing sin, whereof its punishment in the Person of the Son of God at such a rate, is one of the greatest, clearest, and most convincing evidences imaginable, to whom he would not abate one farthing of the Elects debt, but did with holy and spotless severity exact the whole of it; And though he was the Fathers Fellow, yet he would needs have him smitten with the awakened Sword of sin-revenging Justice and Wrath: As if all the executions that had heed done in the earth on men for sin, as on the old World of the ungodly drowned by the Deluge. On the miscreant Inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah and of these other Cities, upon whom he showered down liquid flames of fire and brimstone, even somewhat of Hell in a manner out of Heaven burning them quick, and frying them to death in their own skins: On Core [Korah], Dathan, and Abiram, and their associates, upon whom the earth opened and swallowed them up in a most stupendous manner alive, the rest being consumed by fire sent down from Heaven. On the one hundred eighty five thousand men of Sennacherib's Army, all slain in one night by an Angel: And on the Israelites, who, by many and various plagues were wasted and worn out to the number of six hundred thousand fighting men in the short space of forty years; Reflections on which made Moses, a witness of all, with astonishment to cry out, Who knows the power of thy anger? As if, I say, all these terrible executions of Justice, had been done by a Sword asleep, or in the Scabbard, in comparison of the execution it did on Jesus Christ the Elects Cautioner [A cautioner is one who becomes legally liable for another’s debt if they default, a surety, a guarantor], against whom it awakened was unsheathed, furbished, and made to glitter; So that we may say, had all the Sons and Daughters of Adam, without the exception of so much as one, been eternally destroyed, it would not have been a greater demonstration of the severity of the Justice of God in punishing sin. (47)

In respect of Justice pursuing him for it; When he becometh Cautioner and full Debtor for the Elect, he is put to pay their Debt to the least Farthing; the Lord musters up against him his terrors, and commands his sword to awake and to smite the man that is his fellow. But 3ly. and mainly. In respect of his actual undergoing the Curse and Suffering, that which the Elect should have suffered; for It is not the work of a Court to pass a sentence, but also to see to the execution of the sentence only; not only are orders given to the sword to awake and smite, but the sword falls on and smites him actually; and though from the apprehension of the anger of God, as Man, and without the sensible and comforting manifestation of his Fathers love . . . . (479)

It did consist (as we hinted before) in the God-head's Suspending it's Comfortable Influence for a time from the Human Nature; Though our Lord had no Culpable Anxiety, yet He had a Sinless Fear, considering Him as Man; and that the infinite God was Angry, and Executing Angrily the Sentence of the Law against Him, (Though He was not angry at Him considered as in Himself, but as He stood in the room of the Elect, as their Cautioner, of whom He was to exact the Payment of their Debt) he could not but be in a wonderful amazement . . . . (744)

He had an inexpressible sense of grief; not only from the petty outward Afflictions that He was under; (which may be called petty comparatively, though they were very great in themselves) but also from the Torrent of Wrath flowing in, on His Soul; That Cup behooved to have a most bitter Relish, and an inconceivable Anguish with it, when He was a drinking of it, as appeared in His Agony. O! As He was Pained and Pinched in His Soul? The Soul being especially sensible of the Wrath of God. 3 It consisted in a sort of wonderful Horror, which no question, the marching up (to say so) of so many mighty Squadrons of the highly provoked Wrath of God; and making so Furious and Formidable an Assault on the Innocent Human Nature of Christ (that considered simply in itself, was a finite Creature) behooved necessarily to be attended with; Hence He prays, Father, if it be possible let this cup depart from me; Intimating, that there was a Sinless Loathness, and a holy Abhorrence to middle with it, and to adventure upon it. Though we have not Hearts rightly to conceive, nor Tongues suitable to express those most exquisite Sufferings, yet these things show, that our Lord Jesus was exceedingly put to it in His Holy Human Soul. (745)

All quotations from: Christ Crucified: 72 Sermons on the whole 53rd Chapter of Isaiah

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"That's My King!" In Proverbs 17!

Christ Jesus Is The Prince Of Peace

Though Poor, Not Having Many Feasts

He’s Meek And Lowly, Our High Priest

Who Causes Joy To Increase

He Took All Strife In His Decease

Died, God’s Wrath He Did Appease

Then Rose Again To Make Death Cease

And Now He Grants Us All His Peace

Who Trust In Him And Sins Release

He Is Our All, Our Treasure Piece

We Will, With Him, Forever Feast

Who All God’s Pleasures Will Increase!

That's my King!

Christ Jesus Like A Father Came

There’s No One Like Him, None The Same

Provides, Protects, And Loves! Exclaim!

Gentle And Lowly, Strong Not Tame

He Gave Himself To Bear Our Shame

Under God’s Wrath He’s Set Aflame

He Died And Rose, Death Overcame

By Faith Alone His Sons Became

Now Christ-likeness Is Our Aim

God The Father – Praise His Name!

God The Son – We Spread His Fame!

God The Spirit – Hearts Inflame!

Our Triune God – Give All Acclaim

Our Crown, Our Glory – He’s Our Aim!

That's my King! Do you know Him?!

Christ Jesus Is The Son Who Rules

With All Wisdom, Evil Cools

Has More Knowledge Than Every School

Yet Counted Sin As Wicked Fools

Killed As Breaker Of God’s Rules

Bore God’s Wrath Forever Cools

Then Rose Alive, He’s Heaven’s Jewels

By Faith Alone He Saves The Fools

And Makes Us Wise – His Spirit Rules

For Him, We’ll Leave All Earthly Jewels

And With All Wisdom Live His Rules!

That's my King!

Christ Jesus Suffered – Past The Test

He’s Gold And Silver – Treasure Chest

Endured The Crucible The Best

And Even When His Friends Depressed

They All Would Run At His Arrest

He’d Die To Finally Give Them Rest

Bore All God’s Wrath – Was Crushed, Distressed

And Died Your Greatest Friend Oppressed

Then Rose Again With Power And Zest

Now Death Is Dead And Can’t Molest

By Faith Alone In Him You’re Dressed

He Takes The Saddest Spirits Pressed

And Fills Your Hearts With Joy Possessed

He’s Medicine – Your Happy Quest

All Because He Passed God’s Test

There’s No One Like Him – He’s The Best!

That's my King!

Christ Jesus Made And Rules The Tongue

He’s God Of Truth – Truth From Him Sprung

He Never Sinned With Heart Or Tongue

Kept Silent When Foes Cursed And Swung

Took No Bribe, Nor Mocked, Nor Stung

But Covers All Offense And Hung

With Love Upon That Cross And Flung

All Our Sins Away Among

The Deepest Ocean Floors Are Slung

All Because God’s Wrath Him Stung

He Died And Rose Again And Sprung

Up From The Tomb – Brings New Life Young

By Faith Alone To Him We’ve Clung

He Changes Hearts And Changed Our Tongue

We Count All Loss And Filth And Dung

Compared To Christ Who For Us Hung

His Praises Now Forever Sung

For He’s Our God Who Healed Our Tongue!

That's my King! I wonder if you know Him today?!

Christ Jesus Is Holy And Never Rebelled

God’s Wise, Perfect Messenger Only Excelled

He’s God In The Flesh – With Men He Has Dwelled

All Evil And Foolishness He Has Expelled

Hates All Transgression And Truth Has Impelled

He Died On That Cross Where God’s Presence Withheld

Forsaken And Crushed – In Anguish He Yelled

Then Rose From The Dead – New Life He Propelled

By Faith Alone Our Salvation Is Spelled

Now By His Spirit In Christ We Are Held

And In Us God’s Wisdom And Righteousness Swelled

God’s Laws And His Word And His Glory Upheld

All Because Christ In God’s Wisdom Excelled!

That's my King!

Christ Jesus Is Our God Who’s Just

He’s Truly Man With Perfect Trust

In God His Father’s Plan Robust

Yet His Own Son Would Die For Dust

In Him God’s Angry Sword Would Thrust

Christ Died And Rose For The Unjust

By Faith Alone In Him We’re Just

Now We Repent From Every Lust

We Hate All Sin With True Disgust

Do Righteousness And God Entrust

For Him Who Is Our Only Must

He’s Made Our Hearts For Him Combust

Who Is Our God Who Made Us Just!

That's my King! That's my King!

God And The Gospel

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Christ Jesus Is Our God Who’s Just!

Christ Jesus Is Our God Who’s Just

He’s Truly Man With Perfect Trust

In God His Father’s Plan Robust

Yet His Own Son Would Die For Dust

In Him God’s Angry Sword Would Thrust

Christ Died And Rose For The Unjust

By Faith Alone In Him We’re Just

Now We Repent From Every Lust

We Hate All Sin With True Disgust

Do Righteousness And God Entrust

For Him Who Is Our Only Must

He’s Made Our Hearts For Him Combust

Who Is Our God Who Made Us Just!

God And The Gospel

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Christ Jesus Is Holy And Never Rebelled!

Christ Jesus Is Holy And Never Rebelled

God’s Wise, Perfect Messenger Only Excelled

He’s God In The Flesh – With Men He Has Dwelled

All Evil And Foolishness He Has Expelled

Hates All Transgression And Truth Has Impelled

He Died On That Cross Where God’s Presence Withheld

Forsaken And Crushed – In Anguish He Yelled

Then Rose From The Dead – New Life He Propelled

By Faith Alone Our Salvation Is Spelled

Now By His Spirit In Christ We Are Held

And In Us God’s Wisdom And Righteousness Swelled

God’s Laws And His Word And His Glory Upheld

All Because Christ In God’s Wisdom Excelled!

God And The Gospel

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